Runner Up: Listener's Choice Award, Podcasting for Business Awards 2022
Jan. 21, 2022

Episode 25: If Not Me, Then Who? with Emma Barnes

Episode 25: If Not Me, Then Who? with Emma Barnes

Harnessing fury to drive transformation.

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A mission driven by fury. What a place to start! Sometimes the reason we stumble on our mission is because something needs doing and no-one else is doing it. So we just start and keep doing what needs to be done, one step at a time.

That’s Emma’s story. She took one step at a time to change the world of publishing because she could see what would be possible if publishers learned to code. Frustrated by the lack of technical literacy in the industry, she started by teaching herself how to code in order to build a bibliographic system and teach others.

Her story is one of frustration, fury and an absolute refusal to countenance the idea of failure; such is the strength of Emma’s belief that writing is the key to changing the world, and data management is the key to liberty.  She shares her experience of running a business, being a mum (and home schooling!)  and surviving the pendulum swing when you walk away from earlier career choices.



Sue is on a mission to help women create a legacy that truly makes a difference.  With over 30 years coaching and leadership experience, Sue understands the fear of not fulfilling the mission you feel called to, and loves nothing more than disrupting unhelpful thinking so you can shift your focus from what you need to do, to who you need to BE to change the world.


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Emma Barnes

Founder - Consonance Publishing

Emma Barnes is a publisher, programmer and activist on a mission to eradicate menial drudge-work from the jobs of people in book publishing. She founded and runs, and, whose technical literacy initiatives include, and

Contact Emma at:

Consonance Publishing Management:
Snowbooks Ltd (independent publishing):
Make Our Book (children’s publishing):